China Losing Interest in Pakistan: India, China, U.S. in a Changing World – Trump & Modi at the Center

The conversation began with the shocking assassination of Charlie Kirk, a close Trump ally, during a university talk on gun violence. Sushant Sareen called the incident “ghastly” and linked it to America’s toxic mix of political hatred, polarization, and guns—contrasting it with India, where polarization exists but gun violence does not. He argued that the U.S. is witnessing the decline of its “exceptionalism” and slipping into instability.

On the larger global stage, Sushant Sareen analyzed President Trump’s erratic trade policies—praising India one moment while reportedly pushing the EU to impose tariffs the next. He said India’s strategic “reset” with America, carefully built since the 1990s, now faces uncertainty. At the same time, India cannot fully trust China, even as outreach attempts continue. Sareen stressed that India must balance ties with both Washington and Beijing without compromising its core interests.

He also discussed Pakistan’s relevance, pointing out that while both the U.S. and China have ties with Islamabad, neither may be as invested as before. Still, India must remain cautious.

Concluding the discussion, Barkha Dutt reflected that India remains an “oasis of stability” in South Asia compared to the chaos in neighboring countries and the violence in the U.S. Sushant Sareen agreed, calling India’s resilience a “miracle” in today’s turbulent world.